Why Regular Updates are Bad for Webcomics

WillieHewes's picture

This is a little rant about webcomics, popularity and storytelling. Or perhaps more of a lamentation than a rant. I'll start with some background.

It's a truth universally acknowledged that webcomics gain more hits on update days; when there is a new page/strip up. A related fact is that updating your webcomic regularly is the key to gaining any audience, let alone a large one. This is because of the nature of the Internet and the way webcomics are listed and promoted, and it leads to a well-ingrained factiod: the only way people are going to notice and read your comic is by updating constantly, and regularly. This is just how webcomics work.

This is fair enough in the case of gag-strips that are basically digital newspaper funnies; you read it on the day it's published, get a little laugh (or not) and the next day you start from scratch. You can start reading the strip at any point, and you'll be up to speed on the characters and situation soon enough. Strips that don't have new funnies on a regular basis aren't as interesting, and drop down the popularity list. Nothing wrong with that.

But it's a bit of a problem when it comes to other types of webcomics; the ones that tell a story, and that need to read from the beginning or you won't get it. Imagine watching your favourite film 5 minutes at a time. I'd drive you nuts, right? Yet that is exactly how comics on the web are published; one page a week. Recently, I was surprised to hear that a lot of people actually read webcomics that way, as well, rather than waiting a few months before checking back. I know I can't read a story at a page a week, but that's how they're published because it's the only way to get a decent audience.

The updating mechanic is even more disastrous for stories that are actually finished, because they don't update at all. I think short comics can be very funny, moving, interesting and just all-around brilliant, but on the web they're hard to find. I think part of the reason is that these comics get overlooked because they don't update. In webcomic terms "stopped updating" means "died" means "not worth checking out", even if the reason they stopped updating is that the story's finished!

And the upshot of all that is that in webcomics world, the vast majority of storylines is and remains unfinished. You read it from the start, you're really enjoying it, and then you're caught up and you'll have to wait however many months, or even years before you can read the ending. :' ( Nobody likes unfinished stories, but all the most popular webcomics are unfinished, simply because regular updates is what makes you pupular. Tragic, huh? How do we find those hidden gems, the comics that are good and dead? How do you promote something that is ten pages long?

I don't really have the answer, but I think it's worth pointing to this little glimmer of hope: Full Story is a blog-style listing of finished webcomics, some short stories, some finished series. There's some good stuff there, even though it's just one person choosing and listing the comics. I think we could do with something like this on a larger scale.

OnlineComics.net now has a "completed" category under "format", which is a good start, but tellingly, the most popular ones were still published as long running page-at-a-time webcomics.

Maybe short stories should band together under one banner, and release each individual story a page at a time as if they were updates to the same comic. Obviously that would only work if the comics all had a common artist or thematic element, but it could be an idea. Maybe there's another answer I don't know about. I'm open to suggestions, because, having worked on two short comics now, I'm starting to develop a taste for it.

Note: This is a crosspost from my blog.

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Kiba's picture

We read unfinished story all

We read unfinished story all the time in the print world. We wait every few month for our next 100 + pages, etc.

It streatched out in volumes and finsihed in a few year. They build up audence as they go and all that jazz. It is like webcomics, except on a bigger update scale.

 

I don't see why webcomics that update once a week as a bad thing. Maybe you don't like it, but I do.Â

timtylor's picture

Full Story is a blog-style

Full Story is a blog-style listing of finished webcomics, some short stories, some finished series. There's some good stuff there, even though it's just one person choosing and listing the comics.

Ah... two people. ;)

A lot of "gag-format" strips on the web and in the papers have continuing storylines, sometimes running over years, so there's a big grey area between longform and pure-gag comics.

WillieHewes's picture

Ah, thanks for the

Ah, thanks for the correction. I take your point about they grey area, you're quite correct. I guess some of these comics would suffer from the same drawbacks.

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DAJB's picture

You make some good points

You make some good points but not everyone reads their comics the same way.

A page at a time? Well, it's not the way I like to read story comics and, when I do visit a long-form comic, I tend to go back and start at the beginning of the previous chapter. I want to be reminded of what had happened previously. With that in mind, I dispensed with the "latest page" buttons on my site. After all, who needs them? Well, apparently, lots of people. I was asked (right here at Comixpedia!) to introduce a way for people to just stop by and read the latest page only. (I did!) Different folks ...

The inconvenience of having to follow a story in bite-size instalments? Look at the success of SW: Clone Wars! Okay, so it's a different medium, but who would have thought people used to watching 25-minute cartoons would want to follow a story released in 5 minute instalments?

The Full Story list? Yes, it's a bit of a drawback that the only sites formally listed are those which meet the personal tastes of one or two individuals but there is a forum for other suggestions. And there's no reason not to try the comics listed there, whether they've been "accepted" or not.

Difficulties in "publicising" complete stories? Yes, yes and yes. I have a couple of complete short stories at my website ("Immortality" and "Perfect Storm") but - now they're complete - the only people who are likely to know they're there are those who stop by to read my longer form comics like "Shades".

In conclusion, you're right - for some of us, the web isn't an ideal medium for story comics. But, fortunately, you're also wrong. There are people out there who are quite happy to read a page at a time! (Finding the buggers is still a problem, but that's for another time!)

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Because comics are not just for kids

Broken Voice Comics Because comics are not just for kids
The William G's picture

I've long pondered this problem

I've long pondered this problem, and it comes down to the delivery method and web use habits.

I have found, that generally speaking, people don't like to be staring at static images on a monitor for all that long. It makes their eyes go all funny. Internet information is received in bursts. And gag-stips are perfectly suited to this delivery method. Should you add on the generally accepted idea (true or not, beats me) that most people use the web from work/ school and thus have to sneak in their gold-bricking, then it becomes clear that gags will always have an advantage over longer material.

 Stories are meant for books there's no way around that. But as a creator, if you have no choice but to stick a silk dress on a pig, you may as well do your best with it.Â

 (Then again, there's also the problem of creator ego and merchandising: It's hard to win the geek dick-measuring contest of pagviews and/or sell t-shirts without the regular updates bring people back all the time.)

I've been considering trying to balance all of the demands and switching to a bi-monthly full-story format. But I don't think that'd jive with Graphic Smash's format.


timtylor's picture

Only speaking for myself

The William G wrote:
I have found, that generally speaking, people don't like to be staring at static images on a monitor for all that long. It makes their eyes go all funny. Internet information is received in bursts. And gag-stips are perfectly suited to this delivery method.

Only speaking for myself, but I don't generally mind looking at images onscreen so long as the monitor's not on the blink.

The delivery method's a red herring, to my mind. You call for a picture; a computer somewhere fishes it out of its files, chops it up viciously, sticks address labels on the pieces and chucks them out. By devious and secret routes the pieces make their individual ways to your PC, where nameless demons stitch them together and paste the result on screen. You never see the pieces, only the rebuilt picture. Only difference between a full page and a newspaper strip is the page travels as maybe 100 pieces instead of 25. Otherwise, same stitching job for both.

The William G's picture

My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

Except one is a dot moving very quickly on what is essentially a giant lightbulb, and the other is static ink on paper.

To think of it, it does seem that the people most used to staring at a screen (gamers/ porn addicts) also seem to be the people who read the most webcomics, doesn't it?


Scarybug's picture

CRT

The William G wrote:

Except one is a dot moving very quickly on what is essentially a giant lightbulb, and the other is static ink on paper.

That's only true of CRT monitors.

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DAJB's picture

Ooooh! That poor pig!

The William G wrote:
... if you have no choice but to stick a silk dress on a pig, you may as well do your best with it.Â

What your "best" might be that you'd want to do with a pig in a silk dress truly boggles my mind!

That aside, this is probably the most succinct summary of the dilemma I've seen yet!

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Because comics are not just for kids

Broken Voice Comics Because comics are not just for kids
WillieHewes's picture

Measuring

The William G wrote:

(Then again, there's also the problem of creator ego and merchandising: It's hard to win the geek dick-measuring contest of pagviews and/or sell t-shirts without the regular updates bring people back all the time.)

Ugh, point taken. High traffic is partly a matter of making people come back every single day, rather than dropping in, enjoying themselves and leaving happy. I should watch not to enter into dick-measuring contests, I don't fare well in them. Laughing

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scottstory's picture

I don't see this issue as a

I don't see this issue as a problem, per se', but I think there are different ways to approach it.

 A gag strip that runs daily is the best for growing a big audience. It can work well on a website devoted to it alone, and develop a big community.

 A longform adventure strip, such as I draw, goes better on a comic collective site. Why? Because there is something new updating there every day, even if it's not your comic. You get to share the wealth of visitors with your site mates. If your strip is alone on a site, and only updates once a week, that's an uphill battle. (Yes, I know there are exception. I can't think of any off the top, but I'm sure there are, and I'm glad for their success.)

So, different strategies for different types of strips.Â

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Kiba's picture

This remind me of

This remind me of something....

 

We have RSS right?

No longer do we need to update on a scheulde, we can afford to update without a scheudle of some sort... Maybe you still update often, but the days of deliverly don't have to be in some sort of patterns.

RSS is the way of the future, it just need more people taking advantage of it.

 

It like teenagers in Tokyo. No longer it is taboo to be late at the agreed place and time, rather it is taboo to forget your cellphone or have a cellphone that is out of battery.Â

joezabel's picture

Willie--Â I agree with you

Willie-- I agree with you absolutely; in fact I've been saying this for years. The fragmented nature of narratives in the daily and weekly webcomics really do great harm to the stories they are trying to tell. Some kinds of stories are loosely constructed enough to withstand it (especially humorous and absurd narratives.) But more serious stories, and stories that are tightly constructed fair very poorly in the daily serialized format.
WillieHewes's picture

I take the point, made in

I take the point, made in various ways, that some are perfectly happy reading comics a page at a time. I hate reading comics that way. It's one of the reasons I don't read monthly-issue comics.

I also think that *in some cases* the release schedule puts a strain on the quality of the storytelling. Clearly, if a creator has an organised, professional attitude, has done all her planning and is a generous number of pages ahead of release, that isn't the case. But most webcomic creators aren't like that.

If you have to write the page right now or miss your update, and this is the situation consistantly, the risk is very big that you'll lose sight of the bigger picture. I've read a lot of webcomics that seem to meander pointlessly without being able to get where they're going, and in some cases, I get the feeling that deadline stress might be a factor.

Note: I am NOT saying this is true for all webcomics. Just in some cases I suspect it's a factor.

What remains is the problem of marketing short comics (my immediate and most pertinent problem). Did anyone have any ideas for that?

I'm happy to have sparked this discussion though. It's interesting to confirm that lots of people DO read stuff in installments, and actually don't mind. You're all weird, you know... :PÂ

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AlexanderD's picture

Thanks for the kind words

Thanks for the kind words about Full Story!

My motivation in creating Full Story was less about the problems created by serializing a long form story (though I agree that those problems need to be addressed) and more about the fact that I was troubled that comics seem to disappear completely once they're finished. I wanted to create a library of completed works mainly to keep people aware that these works are out there to be read.

As for promoting short comics--yeah, that's a difficult issue, because short comics require very different sorts of promotion. Most of my own comics fall into this category, so it's something I've spent a lot of time thinking about.

I do hope that Full Story serves as one potential avenue for these works. But it's hardly a solution in itself.

One of my answers for dealing with my short comics was to turn them into an anthology series. Picture Story Theatre is comprised of self-contained (though sometimes linked) short stories that work together because they all have the same artist (Bill Duncan) and share a common inspiration from fairly tales and children's books. They do currently update on a serialized basis, but I could reasonly change it to a complete story added each month type of schedule.

For short works that aren't part of my anthology series, the best solution I've come up with so far is to send out press releases to any news site that I think might be interested. Comixpedia is usually the most responsive to this, though I've also had luck with Scott McCloud. (I suspected he would be interested in the technical aspects of Five Ways to Love a Cockroach--to my good fortune, he was.) Fleen is certainly growing as a site to keep updated, and I suspect under certain circumstances even The Comics Reporter might be a viable target for releases. As an MT/WCN member, I also have access to the TalkAboutComics blog for the general dissemination of my announcements, which has been very helpful.

And, of course, make sure any friends who like your comics and maintain blogs get your press releases. Those are people who WANT to promote you, so give them every opportunity.

Of course, the really important thing when sending press releases is to be careful not to send releases to people who almost certainly won't be interested in the particular story you're promoting--you don't want to needlessly annoy people who may be more helpful for promoting other stories you do later on.

DAJB's picture

Marketing short comics

WillieHewes wrote:
What remains is the problem of marketing short comics (my immediate and most pertinent problem). Did anyone have any ideas for that?

Nope. That was the one part of your original post that stumped me!

One idea I've been considering is to place something else on the site (like a daily gag-strip) that will bring in readers who - once there - will see all the other goodies on display.

So far, it's just an idea, though. The practical problems with it are obvious. Firstly, there's the question of time, of course.  Secondly, you either have to be good at writing and drawing a gag-strip (which perhaps many long form story-tellers wouldn't be) or you have to find someone else who can produce one for you.

So ... if there is anyone out there with a daily gag-strip that's good, wholly consistent with the other material on my site and that needs a home on the web ... feel free to contact me! Laughing

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AlexanderD's picture

Actually, I've tried this.Â

Actually, I've tried this. Technically, it worked. The daily gag strip did bring in a regular and much larger readership than my shorts, and that audience did spill over into my other comics.

The problem is, doing a daily gag strip is time-consuming (as you pointed out), and ended up eating very much into time that I otherwise would have spent writing short comics or other projects.

And second, I just don't like doing it. I like gag strips well enough, but feel no overwhelming compulsion to make them. it was definitely fun for a couple of months, but became a tedious chore soon thereafter.

And third, if telling long form stories is what you're good at, than daily gag strips are probably NOT what you're good at. At least I'm not. So that I'm now in the unfortunate position of being best-known for a comic that I consider substantially below my own usual standard of quality.

So yeah, it can work, but it's not a tactic to undertake lightly.Â

andrael's picture

regular deadlines

WillieHewes wrote:

I also think that *in some cases* the release schedule puts a strain on the quality of the storytelling. Clearly, if a creator has an organised, professional attitude, has done all her planning and is a generous number of pages ahead of release, that isn't the case. But most webcomic creators aren't like that.

<>If you have to write the page right now or miss your update, and this is the situation consistantly, the risk is very big that you'll lose sight of the bigger picture. I've read a lot of webcomics that seem to meander pointlessly without being able to get where they're going, and in some cases, I get the feeling that deadline stress might be a factor.

But in some cases, I think that deadline stress can actually help? For my first webcomic, I didn't really have a schedule or any kind of deadline, beyond posting each chapter as I finished it. I never got beyond the second chapter, and that comic died miserable, alone and unremembered. :P For my second webcomic, aside from having a somewhat more workable story idea, I gave myself a goal of updating every week. 160+ pages later, that seems to be working out a lot better for me.

<> Er, my point, I guess, is that when you don't have any deadlines you can indefinitely put off working out any difficult aspects of the story, perhaps hoping that the magical perfect solution will eventually occur to you so you can start working on the comic again; but you might just end up never getting the comic done at all.

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Scarybug's picture

I totally agree. The comic

I totally agree. The comic that I'm trying to be a perfectionist with never gets more than a few panels done a month, the one I make sure to slap up there once a week is at leadst telling a story and garnering a readership. You can always go back and fix an old comic if you realized you did something stupid.
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WillieHewes's picture

Ah, well, if deadline stress

Ah, well, if deadline stress is responsible for you turning out 'no rest for the wicked', I will speak no more ill of it. (Did I mention I'm a fan? I'm a fan.)

But actually, For the Wicked was one of the things that sparked this rant. It rocks so much! But now there's no more! And the story's unfinished! Lament! Wail!

But I also take your point. I can complain about these great stories being published at a very slow rate, but if it wasn't for the feedback we get from fans and the pressure of a regular schedule, I guess many of us would never finish our stories at all.Â

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AlexanderD's picture

Another factor to consider

Another factor to consider is whether creators consider the updates they post to be drafts or final product. Some creators use the deadline pressure to get drafts of pages done, then go back and rework anything they aren't happy with later on. Jenn Manley Lee, for instance, does a great deal of reworking to her pages long after she's posted them.
The William G's picture

The Power of "Undo"

The great thing about the digital medium is the ability to delete or change things. Some have this silly idea that once it's posted online that it's eternal and thus can never EVER be reconsidered.

 I think webcomics should be redrawn if the creator feels the need to get them up to snuff.


Scarybug's picture

I know VG Cats did this with

I know VG Cats did this with a lot of their older strips. They linked to the old versions of each one too, so history is preserved, and all that.
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Jonesy's picture

The freshness of updating in segments

I agree with andreal - have a regualr update shedule forces you to keep churning out the work and a steady pace helps improve your artistic skills as you go.

I myself, like reading comics in small installments as it seems "fresher", more instant than waiting until the whole story is finished before you get a chance to read it.

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nina's picture

Interesting article. I've

Interesting article. I've been thinking about updating monthly with 5 pages or so, rather than weekly as I've been doing. My readers seem to like the idea.

Anyway, when it comes down to it, I think every artist should work at whatever pace works best for them, and for their comic.