Foldable pages in print comics for webcomics with wider canvases: Possible?

Altercator's picture

Is it possible for print comics to have foldable pages in order to translate webcomics into print?

jdalton's picture

Accordion book anyone?

I once wrote a comic that was going to be one great big accordion book- in the style of Mayan codicies! I don't know how on earth I could have got it printed, though. Luckily I never finished drawing the story so I don't have to worry about the inordinate printing costs.

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timdemeter's picture

Shelf Space

Another matter of practicality to keep in mind when getting a book ready for print a lot of people miss on is the size of the book itself and how it effects how your product is stocked. This is less an issue in bookstores, but very much so in a comic shop.

Sure, as long as your pages are of consistent printed size, you can print any size you want, but if you stray too far off of standard comic book sizes, many comic shops will not have a rack to fit it, and may be placed in a stack in a less than ideal spot. -Just a random note.

Also: the idea of a poster infinite canvas comic is awesome. I would definitely like one of those in my place, so someone get on that!

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Aleph's picture

Shelf space indeed

You know, the thought crossed my mind too, I just didn't find a way to express it that neatly. Places like big-chain bookstores have all manner of odd ways to pile and display books on tables and racks, but comic stores have less space, fewer options, and are less likely to set you up a spiff display table the way Borders might do for an odd-shaped best seller. You'd likely end up under a counter or in the back room, or in a pile of odds and ends at some of the stores I've visited.

Man, and it's not just shelf space either, come to think of it-- shipping from the printer could be a hassle as well. I know from many times moving my odd little library that books do not ship well if they cannot be packed neat and tight. Packing peanuts are not really a help with something as heavy as compacted paper. So you'd have to have boxes made for some of the really odd-dimension books, which is not actually so much of a problem as having books bound differently, but further jacks the price.

Posters are definitely a much better idea.

Ooh, some of them could really go all out, too, imagine the dorm room potential. Some of the really ambitious infinite canvas strips could become posters that you could literally wrap around the entire room. Take that, "The Scream"!

Fabricari's picture

Print Poster Comics

I've bothered Neal Von Flue with this idea several times - what if you printed some of these infinite canvas strips on posters. I would LOVE to have some of those hanging up. And they could be relatively cheap, and artfully done.


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Poster comics

These would be a really good idea, but, they'd have to be done with a lot more skill than some of the 'infinite canvas' artists currently display. With someone like Neal Von Flue, the composition is actually fluid so the overall design is pleasing. I think some of the sidescrolling offerings people put out, though, would really make a poster-purchaser wonder, why didn't they just cut this up into a book. If the poster, from across the room, just looks like a comic book printed in poster form, it would disappoint me. Unless the panels made a greater design with their colour values, like one o' them photo designs made up of little photos. That would be very cool.

Posters are easier to distort than book pages though, so it wouldn't all have to fall in an easy aspect ratio to keep from being cost-excruciating. So it's a really good idea that can be executed well or really badly. That would solve the whole "I Hope Your Infinite Canvas Comics Double As A Nutritious Meal" dilemma anyhow, and give people something lasting to show for it.

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Re: Print Poster Comics

Fabricari wrote:
I've bothered Neal Von Flue with this idea several times - what if you printed some of these infinite canvas strips on posters. I would LOVE to have some of those hanging up. And they could be relatively cheap, and artfully done.


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I think this a great idea, as a maker of a horizontally long comic, this has been my plan. I think my pages would make great posters.

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Fold-out pages

Yes, it's possible but yes, as the posts above have pointed out, it's expensive ... And, just to illustrate how possible it is:

"ALL STAR BATMAN AND ROBIN, THE BOY WONDER #4, the next issue of the blockbuster series written by Frank Miller and illustrated by Jim Lee & Scott Williams, will feature an incredible 6-page foldout of the Batcave."

Wouldn't you have thought with those names attached, there'd be little need for gimmicks like this? What is wrong with these people?

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Aleph's picture

Not practical

Our first arc would produce a toblerone-shaped book, and thus to me is unprintable. Foldout pages in books are obscenely expensive-- and the profits to be made from niche publishing are already paper-thin. Any time you have to make the publisher do more than load your book into their automated spit-out-a-product process, such as adding colour or image dithering, you raise the cost of your book per page. Make them bind it specially and you'd better be putting something worth real money on those foldouts. Like, porn. Or tentacle porn. (Look, Ghastly, somebody got to the whoring of you first! -- :-p) Seriously, unless you have something that people will reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally want to curl up with and fold out, I'd buy some A3 paper or find other goals.

It's much more sensible to either figure out how to lay your webcomic out for traditional paper sizes, or pray to the bitpass gods that the penny fairy will visit you often.

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Not Really Worth It

Plenty of webcomics are making the transition to print (for trade paperbacks) and don't have fold-out pages. It is much more expensive to make the layout more complicated and the order more custom. You can get away with just keeping the comics on a traditional format. Megatokyo and PvP are the biggest names I can think of that "reprint" their comics, and despite the very different layouts, they keep to the basic page layout.

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xerexes's picture

Might be expensive?

It's a good notion - I just wonder how much more it would cost?

 

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